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« Thread Started on Mar 1, 2007, 1:26pm »

I encourage all to participate in the survey found at the USAPL-Maryland web site; http://www.marylandpowerlifting.com/

I'm not sure how long it will be left up..., so hurry!

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« Reply #1 on May 10, 2007, 8:49am »

i can't participate in that survey- it has no selection for 'hot tub.'
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« Reply #2 on May 10, 2007, 10:17am »

Did someone change it? Now it says "Hot bath ot hot tub."
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« Reply #3 on May 10, 2007, 11:20am »

Talk about customer service ;D

Will must've changed it.

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« Reply #4 on May 10, 2007, 12:22pm »

yes, I saw Mike's "hot tub" post and updated the survey.

I often struggle to come up with relevant surveys. Any suggestions or comments are always welcome at:

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« Reply #5 on May 14, 2007, 8:38am »

Thanks Will.

How are you doing? Still training?

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« Reply #6 on May 14, 2007, 10:40am »

Here's a couple:

Which is your favorite lift?

SQ
BP
DL


Which piece of equipment do you like least?

Bench Shirt
Squat Suit
Knee Wraps


Do you prefer to compete in:

The morning
The afternoon


Why is powerlifting not in the Olympics?:

Too many federations have watered down the sport
Boring to watch
Supportive gear has made a mockery of strength sports


A marathon runner unloads your squat bar loaded to 585 while you're wrapping your knees. Do You....



Wrap the empty bar around his pencil neck
drop a 45 pound Ivanko plate on his gonads
Give him a thumb to the eye, suplex him and yell 'WOOOOOO' like Rick Flair
Get your spotters to help hide the body



I could go on & on. ;)
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« Reply #7 on May 14, 2007, 4:49pm »

Hey Mike - thanks for the survey ideas,.. I like them ALL. Congrats on the Masters Nationals. You are an inspiration to fellow Maryland Masters lifters. I too would like to go one year (I'm 42),.. I might even think about going to Miami in 2008 if the USAPL actually breaks down and has a dedicated Raw division, and make it belt only - that would be perfect (I can dream can't I). I really need to get my total up first so i don't embarrass myself. Maybe in 2009?

Hey Jim - my training is going well (thanks for asking). I am hitting the gym 3 times per week pretty hard (Columbia Gym in Clarksville, MD). I have been trying to do more deadlifts and squats without a belt to build up the ol' core. My raw squat in the gym (with a belt this time) is up to 445 (final broke the 200kg level) and my deadlift is stuck at 425 (recently missed 435). Bench is improving but I have no clue where it is exactly,.. the press command killed me at the navy open.

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« Reply #8 on May 15, 2007, 6:42am »

Hey Will,
Come out to the bench meet this July. We're having a raw division.

While in Milwaukee, I spoke with Robert Keller. There will be some proposals made at the upcoming NGB meeting in St. Louis to open up a raw divison in the USAPL. I sent him some of my thoughts to use in support. We do need to keep on top of this.

Nice lifting Will and great approach. What lifters often forget is to build core strength. I think there is just too much dependancy on equipment.

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« Reply #9 on May 15, 2007, 8:28am »

Will, Those lifts are plenty competitive and respectable. Get your butt down to Miami! ;)

As far as lifting raw, any respectability lost with those poundages will be more than made up by making a statement walking onto the platform in a singlet and nothing else. Believe me, people WILL notice.

Many Masters actually remember lifting raw, and will respect it.

Beltless training really helped my squat immensely, as did 'birthday squats.'

I think I'm gonna start a topic on 'birthday squats as soon as I'm done here.



Anyway, if I can travel to Milwaukee & do what I did, after a 10 year layoff, you can go to Miami and lift with pride. Everyone told me the atmosphere at the Masters was different, and I must admit, I didn't believe them. I've been converted. Go 155 155 155 465 and someone there will tell you that you did ok.

Sounds hokey, but it's true.



How'd we get so off track? ???
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« Reply #10 on May 16, 2007, 12:20pm »

BTW- I think adding a 'recent posts on the forum' link on the marylandpowerlifting home page is a good idea. Maybe it will increase traffic in this ghost town.
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« Reply #11 on May 16, 2007, 1:45pm »

my thoughts exactly to drive local lifters to this Forum.

I also added a link at the bottom of the Survey called "Discussion on this Survey" which puts people right here to discuss,..

maybe it will work,..

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« Reply #12 on Jun 6, 2007, 11:07am »

Thought about this topic as I was soaking in my hot tub after squatting Monday night. You sorry suckas don't know what yer missing! :-*
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« Reply #13 on Jun 6, 2007, 2:50pm »

Hey Mikey...., where have you been?

Hot tub...., you brat :D

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« Reply #14 on Jun 6, 2007, 4:42pm »

New survey available about Bench Press red lights and bombs. What do you think is causing an increase in red lights?

Cast your vote at the Quick Survey at:

http://www.marylandpowerlifting.com

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Then discuss at:

http://mdpowerlifting.proboards82.com/in....80965363&page=1
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« Reply #15 on Jun 7, 2007, 9:34am »

Well, my answer is 'because they don't have hot tubs." ;)

Seriously, I'd have to see the failed lifts to know for sure, but it could be all of the above.
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« Reply #16 on Jun 7, 2007, 11:16am »

Here are links to some of the feed back:

This is Jim Ray. He watched it streaming and is a bencher in his own right: http://www.usaplforum.com/cgi-bin/usapl.pl?read=3989

Here is a video of Mike Hara: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KWTp50md9QI

Here are more: http://youtube.com/watch?v=I8cY3lW_DZk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uo91LEG7Bbg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ql7HQLWMkL8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jU-mT6iubIo

An article posted at PW: http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/5169

As Mike pointed out, very likely a combination of things including not knowing what to expect.

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« Reply #17 on Jun 8, 2007, 7:56am »

More feed-back from the World BP Champ's:

Donovan Thompson on the men:

http://usapowerliftingforum.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=8447

And on the women:

http://usapowerliftingforum.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=8398

Donavan served as one of the coaches.

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« Reply #18 on Jun 8, 2007, 9:26am »

EXCELLENT writing by Donovan. I think this subject deserves a post all by itself, as I have some things to say that would stray from the original topic of this thread
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« Reply #19 on Sept 17, 2007, 2:43pm »

Related to Matt Gary's most recent article on making weight for a meet, there is a new survey posted at http://www.marylandpowerlifting.com
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« Reply #20 on Apr 3, 2008, 10:23am »

Why do you personally think Powerlifting is not part of the summer Olympic games? The IPF is part of the World Games, but not part of the more recognized summer Olympics. I know this is an old topic that comes up from time to time, but I thought that I would drag it out again to get opinions from the Mid-Atlantic powerlifting community.

1. Is it gear? Too many advancements to gear and the lack of understanding of gear by the general public make gear the sole issue.

2. Lack of Unity. Too many federations maybe? It seems like there is a powerlifting federation for everyone. How is it that Olympic Weightlifting has been able to get by with just the USAW?

3. Lack of Exposure? People watch strongman on TV so why wouldn't they watch powerlifting? I would, but that is me. Maybe powerlifting lacks exposure and needs TV time. The documentary called "Power Unlimited" did not help the cause in my personal opinion.

4. Combination of factors above?

5. Did I miss someting? If so, please explain.


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« Reply #21 on Apr 3, 2008, 10:49am »

I'm almost sorry to see the last survey go. I'm not sure which answer I found funnier:

I am aware of the forum but don't visit 0%
I was unaware that there was a forum 20%

Of course no one is going to answer the first one, by definition. The other one I still can't figure out how someone who wasn't aware the forum exsisted actually answered the question :P


Anyway, the biggest reason for no powerlifting in the Olympics is lack of unity, which basically was the explanation back in the 80s & early 90s, coming straight from the top of the IOC. They also felt powerlifting was similar enough to weightlifting as to be redundant.

Certainly the gear is holding us back as well. As the gear has become more and more effective & heavy duty, this has been the rally cry from the raw lifters, if not the official IOC explanation.


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« Reply #22 on Apr 3, 2008, 12:03pm »

Will,
I will start with the numbered questions first:


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1. Is it gear? Too many advancements to gear and the lack of understanding of gear by the general public make gear the sole issue.


The simple answer is no.

Most don't understand gear until there is an attempt to explain it.

The gear-raw debate is one waged on the internet.

The IPF has taken a look at the issue of gear and has made an attempt to control it.

Another issue is the affordability by smaller, less well off nations. My thought is that more lifters would lift on the international platform if they had the same economic advantages as those found in the larger member nations of the IPF. Perhaps the best choice is to lift raw so that there will be more competitors.


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2. Lack of Unity. Too many federations maybe? It seems like there is a powerlifting federation for everyone. How is it that Olympic Weightlifting has been able to get by with just the USAW?


30 different federations is a phenomenon found only in the good ole USA.

Leadership and quality of meets is another concern when looking at the various federations. Are they credible?


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3. Lack of Exposure? People watch strongman on TV so why wouldn't they watch powerlifting? I would, but that is me. Maybe powerlifting lacks exposure and needs TV time. The documentary called "Power Unlimited" did not help the cause in my personal opinion.


Powerlifting had TV coverage. As late as the late '90's, the Mountaineer Cup had air time.

There has been discussion surrounding why powerlifting has not been on TV. Some think it is the length of meets. But, even when TV would cover an event, only certain lifts were broadcast. It can be done.

My personal opinion is that powerlifting in the US is hurting itself by not supporting movements like Eric Talmant's. I would not be surprised to see Eric's meet on TV in the next couple of years.

Nick Bussic, who used to promote the Mountaineer Cup, has announced that he will start a "Pro Powerlifting Event" in 2009. Might be just what is needed!


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Why do you personally think Powerlifting is not part of the summer Olympic games? The IPF is part of the World Games, but not part of the more recognized summer Olympics.


Powerlifting was supposed to be in the Olympics. As it was told to me (no name here!), in 1968, powerlifting was to make its debut. But Bob Hoffman (York Barbell) would not finance both the powerlifting team and the Olympic lifting team. He stuck with the Olympic lifting. Not sure what the reasoning was.

There is a lot of events not competed in the Olympics which are included in the World Games. The effort being made by the Olympic Committee seems to be one that limits the number of sporting events competed in the big show. I applaud the hard work that the IPF has put in to get to the World Games.

As I look across the powerlifting landscape, this is how I see it.

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